Stanley Cup Finals: The Truth About the Chicago Blackhawks

The Chicago Blackhawks entered the NHL in 1926, just two years after the Boston Bruins.  The Blackhawks have won the cup four times during their 87 years in the NHL; 1933-34, 1937-38, 1960-61, and 2009-10.

Although the Blackhawks and their fans now see themselves as a storied franchise with solid ownership, that has not always been the case.  Former Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz drove fans of the Hawks away from the game and their now beloved team.

While Blackhawks fans will now claim they are one of the strongest fanbases in the NHL, it was not long ago that this original six franchise was losing money to operate and had nearly the lowest attendance in the NHL.

Wirtz’s reputation was one of the worst in the NHL.  He was known as the owner who wouldn’t spend the money and wouldn’t care what anyone else had to say.  Keeping games off of television, taxed with the blame for letting Bobby Hull walk, losing Ed Belfour and Dominik Hasek, trading Chris Chelios, trading Jeremy Roenick, trading Phil Esposito, and earning ESPN’s award for the worst franchise in sports in 2004.

A lot has changed since his son took over the franchise, but it is truly fascinating to see just how quickly Blackhawk fans have forgotten their storied past.

While the franchise seems to have made a huge turnaround in the past five years, the Stanley Cup Championship of 2010 is now in the past and the present team has to prove themselves.

Many of the faces are the same as back then, but the game is not the same.  Stars like Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews have been missing.

The Hawks faced a team with an injured starting goaltender, a team that wasn’t supposed to be in the playoffs (and nearly lost), and a team that had run out of gas after narrowly beating two difficult competitors.

Now the Blackhawks will have to take on a team with their own problems, but a team that has proven themselves worthy.

After sweeping the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Bruins look unbeatable.  The same cannot be said for the Hawks.

While many analysts will point to their incredible run this season, the Blackhawks now have to prove that they can defeat an opponent from the East.

I will admit, I did not think that this Hawks team would be able to overcome the adversity that it has in the playoffs, and they have earned their spot in the Stanley Cup Finals.  After coming back to beat the Red Wings while being down three games to one, I think that this Hawks team has just as good of a chance of beating the Bruins as the Bruins do of beating the Hawks.

The truth about the Blackhawks though lies deeper than who lifts the cup, or what happens this season.  The truth about the fans in Chicago is that they love their team when it wins.  They love their team as long as the team does what they think is right.  They are not real hockey fans but Blackhawks fans.

You might believe that Hawks fans should be praised for coming back to the game, and you would be right to do so.  The turnaround is incredible, but the truth still lies underneath.  All it takes is one disliked owner to turn a city away.

Tonight the Stanley Cup Finals begin in Chicago, but keep in mind that less than ten years ago this was named the worst franchise in sports.

Stay tuned to Bleedin’ Blue for reactions to the Cup Finals and other NHL news and check out my take on the Boston Bruins as well.

LET’S GO BLUES!

-Alex Hodschayan

Topics: Boston Bruins, Chicago Blackhawks, Playoffs, St. Louis Blues, Stanley Cup

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  • bluenotebacker

    I’m rooting for the ‘Hawks to win the Cup. Lots of former Blues coaches behind their bench I like and respect. Quennville, Kompon, Kitchen. GO HAWKS!

    • Alex Hodschayan

      A former Blue does not mean anything to me. They are no longer with the team for a reason. Bruins in 6!

  • distractedFromReddit

    I don’t believe it was about winning. It was about saying fuck you to the ownership. It worked, fans are back and the witch is dead. Obligatory estimation of upcoming important events: Blues organization folds, goes to work trying to beautify St. Louis. Fails. Hawks in 4! (Side note: Love the Blackhawks, hate Chicago,St. Louis, Illinois, and Missouri)

    • Alex Hodschayan

      The Blues actually have solid ownership now and it is a local group. The team that was able to compete with the Hawks in many ways this season is losing money. Think about that for a second…

      Also, let’s not forget that Chicago is nearly 8 times the size of St. Louis in population alone. For you to claim you were just revolting against the ownership, you would be saying there are only tens of thousands of Hawks fans in the city compared to the multi-millions that live there. St. Louis fills Scottrade with a small population and keeps the team planted in its original city without having the rich son of a hated owner taking over the team.

      Again, thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts.

      • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

        “The team that was able to compete with the Hawks in many ways this season”

        In which ways? Games played?

  • Jimmy Derossi

    “The Hawks faced a team with an injured starting goaltender, a team that wasn’t supposed to be in the playoffs (and nearly lost), and a team that had run out of gas after narrowly beating two difficult competitors.”

    Now you are just grasping at straws. I know I know, anything to discredit the Blackhawks but the Hawks fans had a REASON to revolt against the owner. How would Blues fans react if games were not shown on television? If the roster purging and no TV showing happened to the Blues, they wouldn’t have been able to survive and we’d be calling them the [Insert city that wants a hockey team] Blues.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      The Blues went through a long stretch where you couldn’t get games on local TV stations. Now, you have to have cable just to watch the games.

      Blues fans also had an owner that dismantled the team and took any chance of success away from the ice with greedy tactics. Our attendance and love for the team didn’t drop. In fact, the Blues only really suffered after the lockout when many hockey towns backlashed against the NHL. Thanks for the insight, but I think you are a little off.

      • Jimmy Derossi

        There is a big difference between being aired on cable and not being aired at all. And quite frankly if a team does not sell out their arena in the playoffs (the only team to do so) despite having a Cup contending team, that’s an extremely poor reflection on the fan base. And please don’t give the lockout as an excuse.That’s nothing more than a copout

        • Alex Hodschayan

          There were many reasons that the Blues didn’t sell out their home playoff games, but that is another story completely and I would love to chat with you about the actual logistics.

          As for Hawks fans, I think you, as a fan, are able to see just how many bandwagon fans your team has picked up since 2010 and that is a sign of the times. What happens when a rebuild is needed? Do those casual fans that like the chance to say that they have been to a game recently stay with the team. I don’t think so.

          • Jimmy Derossi

            The casual fans will come out even if a rebuild is needed because the experience is way better. Unlike Dollar Bill, Rocky has surrounded himself with people who know a thing or two about making the experience better for the fans ( Specifically John McDonough) and of course making the team better (Stan and Scotty Bowman). Bill Wirtz never wanted to win the Stanley Cup because his theory was that if they win, the players have all the leverage in the world to get a raise. And for Dollar Bill, it was all about the bottom line. In fact, Bob Pulford was not even allowed to say the words “Stanley Cup”during his introductory press conference in 2003. Les Grobstein of AM 670 The Score has verified this multiple times. That, Alex, is going through hell and high water.

    • Nikki Fields

      Why are you on a Blues blog? Stop trolling! Or do you just getting angry and defensive?

      • Jimmy Derossi

        You clearly don’t understand the definition of “trolling”. And FYI, this post was linked on Blackhawk up.

        • Nikki Fields

          This is a Blues blog, and you’re intentionally starting shit, that’s trolling. You have nothing better to do than pick fights on opposing team’s blogs?

          • Jimmy Derossi

            Starting shit? What are you, in 7th grade? If a civil response to a post which I disagree with gets your panties all in a bunch, life gets much harder than that young lady.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            Let’s all stop with the vulgarities and keep this PG in here. Feel free to say what you would like, but keep the obscenities out of it. Also, let’s avoid name calling.

          • Nikki Fields

            This young lady is 32. And saying crap like “getting your panties in a bunch” and “butt hurt” is supposed to be intelligent?

          • Jimmy Derossi

            It’s called figure of speech. But if you want me to decipher it, I will gladly oblige.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            Jimmy, she makes a good point. When there are intelligent responses or people who want to start an open conversation, they are making a point. People saying that I or anyone else is “butt hurt” is exactly what a child would do.

          • Jimmy Derossi

            Edited it. My apologies

          • Nikki Fields

            Figure of speech or not, those phrases are immature, unnecessary, and unintelligent, nor are they civil as you claimed.

          • Jimmy Derossi

            Just as unnecessary as you introducing vulgarity to this blog. Pot, meet kettle.

          • Aimee Quenneville

            Nikki, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’re not an idiot. Therefore, I expect you to recognize that disproving a load of bullshit that is being vomited by some patently biased and unknowledgeable source with a keyboard does not a troll make. It means fans aren’t going to sit by and allow someone to bash a series of incredible and inspiring accomplishments out of sheer jealousy.

            Presidents’ Trophy. Stanley Cup Finalists. First SCF game won. Please, all of you, kindly wake up and watch a hockey game before writing or defending anymore smut about the Chicago Blackhawks.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            Thanks for reading Aimee.

  • Jon

    …it was not long ago that this original six franchise was losing money to operate…

    Most teams, every year, lose money to operate. Sad fact about the NHL. The Blues have lost money 8 of the past 9 years, including an operating income loss of 10 million dollars last year.

    The Hawks however, earned money even between 2004-2006, lost a little in 2007, and have been the black ever since.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      True, but the original six teams have been making money consistently. Boston, New York, Montreal, Detroit, and the Maple Leafs haven’t worried about money. That leaves just the one, Chicago. A city that is large enough to support to MLB teams, an NBA team, and many minor league teams was losing money. That is a huge market with millions of residents. You only need 20,000 to attend each night to make money. Seems like a stretch to say that this was just fans reacting to an owner. Just my two cents.

  • Jon

    Also, the Blues right now are valued by Forbes magazine as the least-valuable franchise in hockey. Even behind Phoenix.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      Jon, thanks for reading and sharing. Obviously this article was not about the Blues. Our franchise has many of its own problems and the ones that you mention are the reason this team isn’t in the cup finals.

      While I know you are trying to compare our two teams, this is simply my feelings about the Hawks. We could also compare the Blackhawks to the Canadiens, but that wouldn’t be fair now would it?

      • Jon

        I was more responding of your rather incorrect stat that the Hawks were bleeding money. They weren’t every year, (though that may have made your point even stronger. Dollar Bill held on to money and wouldn’t spend money to improve the franchise). Just saying, $$$ does not always equal success.

        • Alex Hodschayan

          Very true and I did not intend to make it sound as though the Hawks were losing money every year. I still don’t see how a city can say it was getting back at an ownership group when they seem to love his son beyond belief. When money gets tight for the family, hobbies will lose interest and the Hawks will be right back where they were again. Let’s just hope for fans of the team that the Wirtz family never falls on hard times.

          • Jon

            I think that Hawks fans, or un fans, were reacting to all of it–a shitty team, that wasn’t on television, with a crappy owner. What came first, bad ownership or bad fans? Who knows. I think that success leads to more fans.

            As for slighting bandwagon Hawks fans, I’m fine and right there with you. I don’t mind new hockey fans, its great for the sports and if they are eager to learn the game then I’m all for it. I can’t stand the bandwagon fans who have no idea what’s going on yet still speak as if they do.

            All in all, I think any Hawks fans that are taking the time to read a St. Louis Blues blogs are clearly those that are dedicated, and lumping all Hawks fans together would be about as on par as me suggesting that Blues fans are terrible because they couldn’t sell out their playoff games at Scottstrade.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            You have a good point there. Hawks fans reading a Blues blog are most likely good hockey fans and I completely understand that. Trust me, living in the St. Louis area we know what bandwagon fans look like. It is very popular to love the Cardinals and when the team is winning, all of a sudden, everyone and their brother knows all about the team and was at ________ game when _______ did ______. My problem with Chicago fans is mainly the way that they react to being called out.

            In St. Louis, we know we haven’t won a cup. We get it, we are always a bridesmaid and never a bride. I am all for people taking shots at my team, I love to read those articles. It is nice to know that people are at least paying attention. It seems though that Hawks fans can’t take the criticisms.

            No matter what side of the fence you fall on, hockey is hockey. The Hawks have played really well this season and have a lot of skilled players, but personally I will never be able to support them.

            Thanks for all the insight and time responding, Jon. We appreciate our readers over here and are happy to have people interact with us on the site.

          • Jimmy Derossi

            Actually it’s very easy how they can love his son beyond belief. He has done EVERYTHING his father did not. Really.

  • Bill

    Are you going to cry when the Blackhawks win the Cup?

    • Alex Hodschayan

      Will you cry when they lose?

      • Jon

        I’m crying either way.

        • Alex Hodschayan

          Now you just sound like Phil Esposito: “I have no feeling for these teams. There’s nothing emotional about it. They both got rid of me, traded me. So screw them”

          • Jon

            Haha, no, I’m so emotionally invested I’ll cry tears of joy if they win, I’ll cry alone in my room if they lose.

      • Bill

        Probably, but it’s entirely normal for a fan invested in his own team to react that way. It is not normal for a blogger for a team that really, really, really wants to be a rival of the Blackhawks, but aren’t because they’re mired in franchise-history mediocrity.

    • Jimmy Derossi

      His article will then be how the refs conspired with Bettman to hand it to the hawks. Or something of that nature.

      • Nikki Fields

        You’re just acting immature and disgusting, saying crap like “butt hurt”. Stop trolling, go on a Hawks site so you can be around others who act like you.

        • Jimmy Derossi

          As Ronald Reagan once said, “there you go again.”

        • Bill Brasky

          stop crying. when someone attacks a fanbase, expect a response.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            A response is expected indeed. Of course some fans won’t be able to silence themselves and those fans are quick to comment. I appreciate differing opinions and welcome anyone to state their case, but comments should contain some content like your own.

            Thanks again.

          • ChicagoNativeSon

            “Of course some fans won’t be able to silence themselves.”

            Hence the article.

  • http://twitter.com/matthoeppner Matt Hoeppner

    I’ve never seen so many contradictions in one post before. You made excuses for the teams the Hawks beat but then say they deserved their spot in the finals. You say the Bruins look unbeatable, and then say that the Hawks have just as good a chance as the Bruins. You talk about some of the atrocities committed by Bill Wirtz and then blame Hawks fans for bailing on a horrible franchise. “Forgetting their storied past’? I think the fact that fans could push aside years of being treated like fools by ownership is forgiving the sins of the organ-I-zation that Wirtz was running. It doesnt take one disliked owner to turn a city away, it took decades of Wirtz pulling the same crap to slowly dissolve the fan base until it bottomed out. An entire generation of fans was forgotten about until recently, and the fact that they have newly embraced the team and the sport should not be held against them, especially in a league desperate for new fans.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      The Hawks are a good team, that is why they are in the finals. They played teams that were struggling to get there and in a shortened season the cup comes with an asterisk. No excuses are being made for their effort, but there were teams that when matched against the Hawks would have been more difficult opponents.

      As for the Bruins, they have looked unbeatable recently, but they are not. Everyone knows this in Toronto. The Hawks have a good shot at the cup, but it won’t be an easy task. Hence the statement about the B’s.

      Thanks for reading and sharing. Always nice to see how Chicago fans will get offended by a simple reminder of their past.

      • Jimmy Derossi

        Asterisk? Now the bitter Blues fan in you is coming out. There are no asterisks in sports unless they are related to PED’s. Only fans who always have something to cry about even bring this up as a topic of conversation.

        • Alex Hodschayan

          Even your Chicago writers think it may need an asterisk… http://chicagosidesports.com/should-we-slap-the-blackhawks-2013-campaign-with-an-asterisk/

          • Jimmy Derossi

            That is a blog, very similar to this. Again, you are grasping at straws.

          • Jim Sacco

            I have no quibbles with this blog. Though, the NBA did not put an asterisk next to the Heat’s title last season. Why would a hockey fan diminish a season by saying any title this year should?

      • Kissmyanthia

        This point is dumb. Yes, the regular season was shorter than usual. But does a team all of the sudden NOT have to win 16 games to win the cup? nope. Still 16. No asterisk needed.

        Plus, at the beginning of the year, probably you and a lot of other people would have said the Bruins were the best team from the east. Not many people would have said that about the Blackhawks, a lot would have said the Kings. The Blackhawks beat the Kings in 5 and had the best record in the NHL. If anything, the Blackhawks winning deserves an asterisk only because no one expected it.

        One more point. Honestly, why did you write this article? There isnt a bit of analysis in the article. Saying X team win X game or X series is just repeating boxscores. This article just screams that you see the Hawks in the finals, you hate the Hawks and you just want to vent. If you want to write an emotional article, then write one titled “Why I do not want the Blackhawks to win the Stanley Cup.”

        If you want to title the article “The truth about the Chicago Blackhawks, then tell us the truth:

        1. They are the best team in the NHL.
        2. They will probably win the Stanley Cup, but the Bruins will give them their toughest challenge to date.
        3. They have a crazy good core of players who got them to the Final.
        4. They beat and overmatched team in the Wild.
        5. They came back from a 3-1 series deficit against a subpar Detroit team thats no one expected to last longer than 5 games. In doing so the Blackhawks showed they can come back from adversity.
        6. They beat the defending Stanley Cup Champions who have arguably the best goaltender in the world.

        Also, if you want to write the article about why you do not want the hawks to win the cup I’d be more than happy to give you some points for that too.

        • Jimmy Derossi

          Amen

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        Asterisk for shortened season?

        I’m sure Blues “fans” would say that if the Blues were in the drivers seat to win the Cup this year (or ever).

        Your constant whining about the Hawks (and now you’ve stooped to attacking the fans) brings me great pleasure. Because not only are you miserable that your team choked out of the playoffs (again), you’re going to be TWICE as miserable if/when the Blackhawks win due to your jealous fixation. Gold!!

        Every one of your Blackhawks envy spewing articles should have an asterisk, for “short on reason.”

  • ChitownJ

    “They are not real hockey fans but Blackhawks fans.”
    Thats absolutely the most accurate way to describe that fanbase. They love their team, especially when its winning but to call them hockey fans? Not in a million years.

  • Nikki Fields

    I absolutely agree with this article, I’ve been saying the same thing for years! I have tons of friends from Chicago and every single one of them has admitted that a majority of the city paid no attention to them before they got good and won the Cup. I don’t doubt there is a die-hard fan base, but it’s small. I absolutely believe a majority of their fans jumped on-board in 2010, and now they brag and strut around like they’re the biggest hockey fans around. The rest of us real fans just laugh. Being a real fan is about sticking by your team, win or lose, through the bad times, not jumping on a bandwagon when they’re hot.

  • Bill

    What happened to the article you previously posted (but have subsequently erased) about why the Hawks won’t win the Cup? That was comedic gold, but apparently you didn’t like that you were being mocked (rightfully so) on the internet. You’re a pretty good troll, though

  • Bill Brasky

    “The truth about the Blackhawks though lies deeper than who lifts the cup, or what happens this season. The truth about the fans in Chicago is that they love their team when it wins. They love their team as long as the team does what they think is right. They are not real hockey fans but Blackhawks fans.”

    People cheer for a winning team = deep truth

  • Bill Brasky

    Real fans don’t need to explain away why they weren’t the only team in the playoffs to not sell out their home games, do they? This opinion piece screams insecurity and jealousy. Taking pot shots at fans is only going to warrant a common response, so please stop complaining about people being “uncivil”.

    it would be a good idea to keep fans out of it next time. There are some that have stood proud through the bad years.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      And those fans who “stood proud” should be able to look the other way at differing opinions. There are many shots against the Blues’ fanbase, but I have never commented on a single article.

      Still, kudos to you for being a proud fan of the Indian head.

      Thanks for sharing.

    • Nikki Fields

      As this is a Blues blog, I see no problem with it. I agree wholeheartedly with everything he said. All of my friends from Chicago admit the city paid no attention to them before they won the Cup. I’m sure there is a small die-hard fan base, but I have yet to meet a single Chicagoan that followed them before 2010.

      • Alex Hodschayan

        Better yet, try to find a Blues fan that is rooting for them now that would have been a fan before 2010. Even harder yet there are a lot of them. I think the fans of the Blackhawks just aren’t used to anyone saying anything negative about the team anymore.

        • Jimmy Derossi

          I think Blackhawks fan are used to it. However, the timing of your article (subtle shot at Hawks fans) and the Stanley Cup finals makes it easy for Hawks fans to misinterpret your article as something that’s written with the sole purpose of evoking a negative response. Just my honest opinion.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            Good point. Not really what I was trying to do though. In St. Louis there are a number of fans who have hopped on the Blackhawks bandwagon and it is disturbing. What I hoped to do was highlight the fact that their success does not make them a lovable team here in St. Louis. If I were raised in Chicago no doubt I would sport the red and black. Hockey fans are all welcome, but when you are willing to trade an alliance, or be willing to support a team just because of recent success, you need to be reminded that there is more to a team than what it currently is. Again, this is just my two cents.

        • Lauryn

          Let me see, my whole family has rooted.for this team since they became a franchise, and me being younger than most of my family, but still having watched the Blues since I was eight, I’d say that there are many Blues fans out there who have stayed with this team no matter what the circumstances. So…you’ve found at least 13 people right here who have followed this team for their whole lives.

      • Bill Brasky

        You’re POV doesn’t scream any type of actual relevance. No one doubts that there are Blues fans, but at what point does a bandwagon just constitute as fans of a team. Blackhawks have had some of the best attendance for 4 years now, isn’t this approach to discount a fanbase pretty tired and pathetic at this point? I guess if you are getting People to respond, it’s all in a day’s work, eh?

        • Alex Hodschayan

          I think comparing the Blues to Blackhawks is a stretch. There is a lot more history in Chicago not to mention the population differences. To sell 20,000 tickets to millions of people shouldn’t be hard at all. If the games weren’t sold out it would seem very, very off. Hence the problem with the team less than 10 years ago.

          • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

            The Blackhawks regularly sold out the Chicago Stadium/United Center in the 70s, large portions of the 80′s and almost all of the 90s.

            Hockey existed before 2003.

          • TheRealBBOX

            You’re right that comparing the Blues to the Blackhawks is a stretch – the Blackhawks win Stanley Cups.

      • 4feather

        Ridiculous.

      • Suzanne

        Hi! *waves* I’m a Chicagoan that has followed the Blackhawks (and attended games whenever possible) since I moved here in 1989. Nice to meet you. Not sure why fans of other teams are so sure they know anything about our team or our fanbase…

  • Nikki Fields

    Great article, I enjoyed it! Can’t waste any more of my day arguing with Hawks fans who felt the need to comment on a Blues blog though, so I won’t be checking back in any more! Hawks fans, may I remind you this is a BLUES blog- if you disagree or don’t like it, nobody forced you to come here and read it! I’m sure you’d be much happier on a Hawks blog. Keep the good articles coming Alex!

    • Lauryn

      I totally agree with you, who needs to argue with hawks fans when you can spend your day doing anything else?

  • Nikki Fields

    Btw, if I ever meet a Chicagoan who paid attention to the Hawks before 2010, I’ll be the first to admit it. But so far, the count is about 30 and all admit they didn’t care before 2010. I’m sure real Hawks fans are out there somewhere, but for now, they’re a myth to me.

    • Jimmy Derossi

      Most of us in here cared before 2010. In fact, the “bandwagon” Hawks fans actually jumped aboard in 2009 when they went to the conference finals and played Detroit. As for me personally, I still supported the team and went to games pre-2008. However, when games are not televised, it is almost impossible to build a fan base. You tell me Nikki, if Stillman decided Blues games will not be televised (cable or local) and the Stanley Cup was not a priority, how would you react?

    • TheRealBBOX

      Maybe you should bother to venture outside the third-world hellhole that is St. Louis, you’d be amazed at the people you’d meet!

      • Lauryn

        So now you’re insulting the city of St. Louis? That’s low, even for a hawks fan.

  • James M

    I remember when you predicted that the Hawks would falter in the Central Division and the Blues would take the top spot. How’d that work out?

    • ChicagoNativeSon

      How’d that work out? He deleted the article!

      • Alex Hodschayan

        Never said the Blues would claim the top spot. Just a little FYI. It was clear from February on the Blues were not going to make a long playoff run.

        • ChicagoNativeSon

          yeah, now about the other half of that article…

  • 4feather

    You want to talk about history? You fans owe your team’s very existence to the Wirtz family.

    “The Blues were one of the six teams added to the NHL in the 1967 expansion, along with the Minnesota North Stars, Los Angeles Kings, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins and California Seals.

    St. Louis was the last of the expansion teams to officially gain entry into the league, chosen over Baltimore at the insistence of the Chicago Black Hawks. At the time, the Black Hawks were (and still are) owned by the influential Wirtz family of Chicago, which also owned the decrepit St. Louis Arena.
    The Wirtzes sought to unload the Arena, which had not been
    well-maintained since the 1940s, and thus pressed the NHL to give the
    franchise to St. Louis, which had not submitted a formal expansion bid.
    The team’s first owners were insurance tycoon Sid Salomon Jr., his son,
    Sid Salomon III, and Robert L. Wolfson, who were granted the franchise
    in 1966. Sid Salomon III convinced his initially wary father to make a
    bid for the team. Salomon then spent several million dollars on massive
    renovations for the 38-year-old Arena, which increased the number of
    seats from 12,000 to 15,000.”

    Is this why you hate us so?

    • Lauryn

      Ah, yes, but we didn’t quit coming to the games because of the bad ownership, now did we?

      • Jimmy Derossi

        If your ownership was ever “bad”, than there isn’t even a word that can describe what Blackhawks ownership was under Bill Wirtz.

        • Lauryn

          I understand that the black hawks had bad ownership for a long while, and that really must’ve sucked. But the Blues have had some bad coaches, like Mike Keenan, who traded off some of our best players, like Curtis Joseph. And still, though Blues fans were.quite mad about that, they came to the games because they loved the team and the game of hockey.

      • Alex Hodschayan

        Nope, Blues fans stood strong in our small little city that continues to support its team.

        • ChicagoNativeSon

          And can’t fill seats for a playoff game.

          Standing strong!

          • Lauryn

            Some people can’t afford to go to the games, like me, so we sit at home and cheer our loudest until the neighbors call to see if there was a murder.

          • 4feather

            And, under these exact financial circumstance, if your owner opted to not televise those games…

          • Lauryn

            Then I’d listen to it on the radio. Duh. And I’d still cheer or scream until the neighbors call the cops.

          • ChicagoNativeSon

            This is classic on so many levels.

      • Dick_barry

        Actually, In 2006-2007, when the ‘Hawks hit their attendance low of an avg. of 12,727 a game, it was still better than the Blues (12,520.). You also had nearly a 10 year period of very subpar attendance ending at the end of the 80′s when you got Brett Hull. I know St. Louis sports fans like to pat themselves on the back a lot, but to attack Hawks fans now is sour grapes.

        • Lauryn

          If you haven’t noticed, this is the BLUES fan page, not the hawks, so to say that I’m attacking the black hawks is kinda ignorant to the black hawks fans around you who are trashing the Blues and the writer of this page. At least I don’t get upset over a bit.of history uncovered.

          • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

            The problem is that the history isn’t really relevant to *anything* at this point and it’s deployed on a regular basis here. Then he/his commenters hide behind his “I’m only making a historical point” nonsense. EVERY.SINGLE.TIME with the attendance figures.

            That’s why he’s getting hammered for this and it will continue as long as he publishes this garbage.

            …and to mistake this for thin skin would be unfortunate. Most Hawks fans *wish* there were some witty Blues fans to banter with on Twitter and in the blogoshphere. The crap that gets published here is just depressingly stupid. Sorry.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            This is the only post in which I have discussed any historical points. Thanks for reading.

          • Lauryn

            No one forced you to read this article, now did they?

          • Dick_barry

            I’m not trashing the writer; he wrote an opinion piece and I disagree with his opinion. And while this is a BLUES blog, it is also a hockey blog. Many of us Hawks fans are fans of the sport, too. Are we not allowed to divulge in other aspects or opinions of the game, or should we be relegated to only our own teams blogs, thereby giving credibility to this opine. Sure there a ton of band wagoners out there, there always are for teams that win. Surely you must remember Kurt Warner’s Rams? Same thing, different sport. This whole ‘Hawks fans suck’ business is little more than sour grapes, which isn’t uncommon when there is a certain amount of jealousy involved. And you can’t say as a Blues fan you aren’t jealous of the Blackhawks, they are in their 2nd Stanley Cup in 4 years.

          • Alex Hodschayan

            As a Blues fan, I don’t expect the team to win a cup. Sure it would be great to see them do it, but I don’t envy other teams for winning it or coming in second. I know the management of this team has a vision and I believe in that vision. Once the Blues were out of it, I could have cared less who won. Sure, I would prefer that the Hawks lose, but if they win more power to them and their fans. Like you say, we have differing opinions. I love my team not for their record, but for the memories I have with them.

            Like I said in another comment, if I were raised in Chicago, I am sure I would have been a huge Hawks fans, but that wasn’t the case.

            Thanks again for sharing your input. I appreciate hearing from everyone.

          • Dick_barry

            Right; I’m not saying you are jealous of the Blackhawks and their fans, just the position they are in. It’s ludicrous to say that it doesn’t matter if your team wins or loses, EVERYONE wants their team to win, otherwise you can’t really call yourself a fan. Not to say you’d trade your experience for someone elses, you just wish the same fortune to your timeline as a fan.
            However, you can’t say you “could’ve cared less who won” and in the next sentence say you’d “prefer that the Hawks lose.” I don’t want to get into a whole thing about contradictions or anything, but you obviously cared enough to wish one team to lose.
            There is a lot of resentment in your article; that’s fine, a true fan should hate their teams rivals. I hate the Blues: I hate the way they play, their players, and their fans false sense of superiority. And if the shoe was on the other foot, I’d probably be saying that the truth about the St. Louis Blues is that their fans more or less suck.

          • Lauryn

            I seriously am not jealous of the Black hawks. I’d sooner be jealous of the Cubs, as.I said before.

          • Dick_barry

            I don’t know who you are trying to kid. You don’t hate the Cubs because they are pathetic and no threat to the Cardinals. You hate the Blackhawks because they treat the Blues like the Cards treat the Cubs. It’s perfectly normal to be jealous of the Hawks success, most Cubs fans are jealous of the Cardinals success whether they want to admit it or not. But, don’t bad mouth The Hawks and their fans and then turn around and claim there is no jealous animosity, if that we’re true you wouldn’t feel the need to say anything. That or you get too many opinions from poorly researched and extremely biased blogs.

          • Lauryn

            Dude, stop trying to tell me what I am and what I’m not. I’m not jealous.of the black hawks AT ALL. I do respect the Cubs fans because of their die hardness and none of them have ever insulted me for being a Cardinals fan. However, I am not jealous of the Black hawks because I’m too busy loving the Blues. Never will I ever be jealous of the Black hawks for their success, nor for anything, because my team is good enough for me, and whether they had made it to the finals or not, I’m not jealous of the Black hawks.

          • Lauryn

            And I haven’t insulted the Black hawks, I’ve just said I’m not jealous of them. And if I insulted a fan, then that was because that fan was trashing my team.

          • Dick_barry

            That’s a chicken or the egg situation: do you really think Hawks fans would be on this silly blog site if it was only about the Blues? We have our own blogs filled with spiteful vitriol, you are more than welcome to read them. This post however, is strictly about the Blackhawks and their fans, so it should come as no surprise that a multitude of us have come out swinging. And considering the writer decided to pick and choose ‘facts’ to perpetuate his hatred (you might not care about the Blackhawks, but the writer sure as hell does,) Hawks fans are going to do the same.

          • Lauryn

            I can understand how you guys would get mad about this one article, but do you know how many articles I read daily that insult the Blues in one way or another? Those articles average around three a day. And they are written by none other than: Black hawks fans. And some Kings fans too. But do I go commenting on their page, telling them that their article is stupid or insulting? No, because they can think whatever they want to, they can say whatever they want, but it only makes my love for my team stronger.

          • Dick_barry

            Daily? Perhaps on the day of a game between the 2 teams, but I think I can speak for The entire city of Chicago when I say we have bigger fish to fry then teams eliminated in the 1st round. If this article were written in a lead up to a Blues/ Hawks game or series, it would make sense to write this; tensions run high during combat. But, the Blues have been out of the playoffs for a month now, and only get attention when emotionally charged pieces as this blog (let’s not call it an article, that would assume its credible journalism) are brought to our attention. And yes, to cut the tension waiting for game 2, it appears some of us have gotten to dissecting and discrediting this blog, whether that be eloquently or not.

          • Lauryn

            Yes, daily. It isn’t easy being a Blues fan, but that’s why I love it so much.

          • Lauryn

            And maybe I would like the Black hawks, but the thing is, never has one Black hawks fan ever said anything nice when I tell them I am a Blues fan. They always criticize my team, or the city of St. Louis itself. Maybe that’s why I have never liked the Black hawks, andill never be jealous of them.

  • James M

    I never understood the point of criticizing bandwagon fans. Yes, there has been an increase in fans from 2010, but why wouldn’t there be?

    The Blackhawks have put a winning formula on the ice after years of mismanagement. Not having the home games on television cost the franchise a generation of fans, and in turn led to some money pitfalls. Hate and anger towards Dollar Bill Wirtz and the team he put on the ice led to fans being put off—and in turn watching Michael Jordan and the Bulls dominate the 90′s.

    Yes, ESPN may have listed the Blackhawks as the worst franchise in sports about 10 years ago (a point you needed to mention throughout the article), but so what? Does that translate into the Blackhawks losing against the Bruins in the Stanley Cup Final? Does that dampen the spirits of the National Anthem when sung at the United Center? Did that kill the mood when Patrick Kane won Game 6 against the Flyers and brought the Cup back the Chicago after 49 years?

    Where’s the ESPN list for biggest turnaround in sports? Doesn’t exist, though there is a list for best franchises today—which the Blackhawks ranked 74th overall in 2012/16th overall in 2010. (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings/_/year/2010#table)

    So many Blackhawks fans have come back after watching their favorite team take a nose dive in the 2000′s. So many new fans are discovering hockey and will become lifelong fans. Why is that horrible?

    Why is it bad that fans demand that their team win instead of lose. After all, many are Cubs fans.

    I’ve been a fan my whole life and the way I see it, the more the merrier when the Cup comes back to Chicago and is paraded around on Michigan Ave.

  • Kyle Downs

    This is something that happens with most franchises that don’t win… why would people buy tickets for a franchise that isn’t trying to win. Think of it as a protest. This is very naive.

  • Steve Dau

    You forgot a key factor. Fans returned when the original Wirtz was no longer at the Helm. By keeping the Hawks off the air, he gave no reason for the fans to follow a team they couldn’t watch when unable to attend games.

    • Alex Hodschayan

      I didn’t know you there weren’t sportscasters in Chicago. Funny. Did they keep them off the radio too? I grew up listening to games on the radio. TV games were always a bonus.

      • Lauryn

        Yeah, my dad said he listened to the games on the radio too, since they couldn’t afford to go to the games.

      • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

        Didn’t you just say a month ago you had to question whether or not you would continue to root for the Blues?

        Who you crappin’?

        • Alex Hodschayan

          Not sure where you got that, but it wasn’t from me.

  • Lauryn

    I really don’t understand why there are Blackhawks fans reading on the STL Blues page…it’s not.like St. Louis likes the black hawks….more like the opposite, we can’t stand the black hawks, so why do their fans come and ruin the Blues page, is it better than theirs or something?

  • Lauryn

    I really don’t see how this article can offend the black hawks fans, given that most of it is about their history and the rest is mostly true. So why are they all getting upset, is it because they made it this far in the playoffs?? I mean, that’s a big deal and all, but seriously, if you don’t like what the guy is saying because your the rival teams fan, why are ya even on this page then???

  • Jim K

    Is this from the same guy who wrote an article about why the Blues shouldn’t be worried about the Blackhawks, and then took it down because it got so many bad reviews due to its lack of structure, supporting evidence and logic?

  • Dennis Maleski

    This coming from a fan of a team with ZERO Stanley Cups and whose team nearly moved to Saskatoon….

    • Alex Hodschayan

      Nearly most certainly does not count. The Blues have always been in St. Louis and it has never been a lack of fans that has caused reports of possible moves. The Blues have also suffered from greedy owners who did not love the team they hoped to make a profit with. The Blues now have local ownership and in 10 years you may be thinking very differently about this team. Thanks for reading.

    • Lauryn

      What, now hockey.is about loving a team just because of how.many Stanley Cups they have? I’m sorry, but that doesn’t sound right to me.

  • Lauryn

    No Blues fan is jealous of the Black hawks. Seriously, I’d be jealous of the Cubs before the Black hawks.

    • Jimmy Derossi

      Of course you guys are. My relatives/ friends from St. Louis openly admit it. Nothing wrong with it. As a cubs fan, I’m jealous of the cardinals.

      • Lauryn

        Nah, I’m not jealous of the black hawks. I will admit though, the Cubs do have some diehard fans that I respect. :) But I’m not.jealous of the black hawks, I love my Blues way too much to be jealous of any other teams.

      • Alex Hodschayan

        I have never been jealous of the Hawks. I really don’t like a lot of the players on that team and wouldn’t want to see them in a note. Now, I am a little jealous of other teams for some of their bigger names, but I wouldn’t trade my Blues for any team.

        • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

          This guy wouldn’t want to see a lot of guys in St. Louis who took a team to the Stanley Cup Final 2 out of the last 4 years.

          Blues fans – why would you read someone like this? Sincere question.

          /waits for hilariously delusional retort

          “WELL THEY LOST IN THE 1ST ROUND THE OTHER 2 YEARS HAHAHA LOSERS.”

  • Lauryn

    How many Black hawks fans are on this page anyway? If you hate the Blues so.much, why don’t you get off of our blog and go insult someone else? I don’t go searching for a reason to insult the Black hawks, so why do they go searching for a reason to insult us?

  • Lauryn

    Black hawks fans, please remember that this is a BLUES blog, and that if you didn’t want to be a little insulted because it’s another teams blog, then you didn’t have to come on here and comment. I’m sure there are many black hawks fans out there who have said a lot more than a few words about the Blues, and I can say the same.for the Blues fans, but don’t get insulted when we say we love the Blues or that this is a Blues page, because, unless you are blind and you didn’t notice, this indeed.IS a Blues blog. Not a Black hawks blog. Great article and hope to read.more! Good day to all of you!

  • Dick_barry

    P.S. – you can thank http://www.cheertheanthem.com for the plethora of Blackhawks fans comments. They occasionally post a link to this blog for some ‘fun.’

  • Jon

    oops

  • http://hesaid.midwestmentality.com/ JeromerInc

    So. About that?

  • http://www.cheertheanthem.com/ Hjammertime

    …..and just like that this guy takes the moral high ground away from Chicago. Booooooooo.

  • Guest

    We may be butt hurt, but we’re still proud Blues fans! :D

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